20050424notes
- 00:00 Intro with "Crazy Game of Poker by O.A.R."
- 00:40 Brent and Sean
- 02:55 cardclub.lordadmiralATgmailDOTcom
- 03:15 Lord Admiral Radio forums at http://www.cardclubs.net/
- 03:48 Listener emails and comments
- 04:20 Ray's email
- Great show as always…
- I was doing stand-up during the big explosion in stand-up comedy.
Before the big explosion though, there was a problem brewing with the
clubs (offering a place to perform your trade) with the thinking that,
“without us you would have nowhere to perform your trade. So, take it or
leave it”.
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- There were so many people willing to work for $35 bucks a night or
LESS, that no one could make a living anymore. The clubs had a never
ending stream of inexpensive labor and were making quite a lot of money.
One day, the stand up comics got together and boycotted “the comedy store”
in LA. Eventually the comics won, because the elite comics that drew the
most attendance would not work the comedy store.
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- Indy Car and Wrestling had the same issues in the recent past. It did
not go well industry for either when they broke with the talent. Compare
that with the NFL and labor peace which has done more for the sport in the
last decade that anything else.
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- I have to believe that poker will go the same way. TV poker needs
ratings, and a network or producer who is smart will go after name
recognition. If NBC (or any MAJOR sized network) decides to produce a
poker show, you can be sure they want big names. And be sure the NBC will
control every logo everywhere in exchange for paying a fee to the union
for players. A smart NBC might actually WANT a players union, because they
can afford to pay the union and other smaller networks would find the cost
prohibitive and thus create a barrier to entry for network competitors.
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- In Drew’s T-8 hand from next week, how could you NOT be worried about
a straight from the SB? Our hero’s top pair with an 8 is nothing to like,
especially with better draws. I would bet this just to see if there was a
caller. But when the SB calls, he MUST be on a draw (either a straight or
two overs) or made two pair. And no matter what falls, it’s probably a
scare card! I am probably done with the hand if I get a caller. There just
isn’t enough in the pot to worry about and I am chasing a straight draw
against a probable two-pair. I certainly will check the turn of 6d (for
5678). I may call a bet (had the SB made one) because the 9 on the river
will be a big winner for me. But I am not MAKING a bet here, rather I am
assuming that I am beat if a 9 does not fall and he bets out on the river.
In the example, the SB calls a turn bet here and is probably still chasing
with 2 overs or a 4 straight. And he is CALLING. He does not put any
pressure on our hero. He has basically decided to play “lotto poker”
(through money away or hit it BIG).
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- On the river, our hero needs a nine to feel secure. So a 9 comes on
the river. He now needs to make this call, even on the re-raise. You can
not lay that down now. There is only ONE hand that can beat you and he
would have had to be a fool to have called the flop (with only 2 overs)
and then the turn (with a 4 outer). I have him on 99 best case at this
point (or slow-playing 9T) and if he has JT, then I am going to lose a
bundle to a “long-shot chaser”. You can not play good poker if you try to
play defensively against our villain’s draw. IF and ONLY IF the villain is
a great player and knew all this, then I would be amazed. I rather think
he chased against all odds and hit the lotto.
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- See you in the online blogger game on Sunday night! (pokerwannabe.blogspot.com)
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- RAY
- 08:22 Henry's email
- Hi Sean, I just caught up with a couple of shows that I'd missed, so
- thanks to you and your colleagues for sharing your views on the top
- three Vegas experiences, that's much appreciated.
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- Happily I'm going with a poker-playing friend rather than my
- significant other, who by strange coincidence, does have certain
- chimp-like qualities...
-
- I was also happy to hear one of your other correspondents pleading for
- more poker podcasts - I think I mentioned before that this is
- something that I was working on, and having had a few trial runs we
- are about to post the first instalment. I won't say any more until
- it's actually up and live, as we have the whole RSS/hosting/etc stuff
- to master first, but suffice to say for now that it's a very different
- concept to your own show.
-
- I'll drop you the URL once we go live!
-
- Keep up the great work!
-
- Henry
- 09:19 Matt's email
- Just wanted to tell you that I really enjoy your show, and that your
call
- for more podcasts a couple weeks ago didn't fall on deaf ears.
Although you
- may wish it had. Please check out my poker podcast, At the Table. You
can
- find it at my blog. Hopefully one of the links below will work (the
server
- has been a bit dodgy lately). I'd like to know if this is something
people
- would listen to or not. Thanks for any feedback, and feel free to
share this
- cast with your listeners.
-
- Matt
- http://matt.brendoman.com/ or
- http://brendoman.com/matt/
- 12:24 Headhunter Mark
- 12:24 Lee's Hand from http://www.cardclubs.net/
- Maybe worthy of discussion. There was much discussion at the table
once the hand was finished.
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- Its a no limit ring game. I'm on the big blind with AKs. Two limpers
around the table. The small blind (a player I'm familiar with, have
respect for, and who I would consider weak/tight) makes a x2 raise. I come
over the top his raise x3. The limpers fold, he calls. He has me
outstacked.
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- The flop is 4 7 7 rainbow. He checks. I make a bet the size of the
pre-flop bet, he deliberates and calls. Knowing what I know about this
player, I now put him on a small to medium pocket pair.
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- The turn is a 2. No help to me, and after he checks, no help to him. I
strongly feel that if I bet out, he will drop his hand. I also know I've
got two massive overcards, but only a 1:7 chance of getting help. I make a
slightly larger bet (hoping to represent trips to what I think is his two
pair), and again, after much deliberation, he calls. I am a bit concerned
now that I wont be able to chase him out, and that maybe I misread his
hand, or maybe he has a read on me.
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- The river is a K. He checks again and, after watching him, I'm
reasonably sure now I've got the hand won. I make the same size bet as the
turn, now thinking one of two things will happen. Either a raise or a
fold. He thinks and thinks and then calls for the third time. I show him
my suited slick and he mucks. He later revealed to me he had pockets tens.
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- Now the interesting part. Each of us thinks the other misplayed the
hand. He told me he figured he had me beat and thought he was taking my
money by calling. He can't understand why I kept betting into him when I
knew I was behind. I can't understand why, if he thought he had me beat,
he didn't come over the top of me after the flop or the turn. I'm sure I
would have folded my 6 outer after the turn, as I was already questioning
my read after his call.
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- What do ya think? At the very least I think its worth discussing small
or medium pairs on the board and how to play them.
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- Lee Flambeur
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- P.S. Good show guys.
- 26:10 Lord Admiral April Game discussion
- 33:27 Poker Prof from http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/
- 41:19 Dr. Pauly from http://www.taopoker.blogspot.com/
- 52:17 Brent and Sean
- 60:41 Outro with "Mix #2" by Greg the Ace